Saturday, August 21, 2010

Worship with Candles

Robin Guidicy the Candle Wax: I had not intended to post this but because mentioning it got me labeled as slurring and attacking Robin I will post some of his article and comment on it.

The article came from:

'The Candle Wax' from Out of the Box Thoughts from Robin Guidicy

Note: in this review I quote historical data. For instance, the Catholic Encyclopedia does not claim any Biblical authority for candles or music but confesses that they lifted them from pagan cults to attact the pagans. The word "pagan" is used in that context. According to Webster's it simply means a rustic or THE OTHER. A non-Greek is a pagan to a Greek and therefore a non-Christian is a pagan to a Christian.

As the word "pagan" and the word "Christian" in the modern context are not much removed from one another, when we use the word it does not speak to you if you belong to The Pagan Church making you evil. And if we think of people being a "christian" it does not mean that they are a CHRISTIAN.

I was responding to an article which mentioned speaking in tongue's and Robin's charismatic style of song leading at Madison Church of Christ already plagued with "worship performers."

People with a secure relationship with Christ do not feel compelled to DO WORSHIP with symbols (idols) such as candles and music. The fact is that religious rituals are a dead give away that the "seeker" much like David had lost contact with God and was desperately seeking to find, arouse or awaken Him.

"The burning of candles is undoubtedly the result of fire worship that dates back to the beginning of time. It was found by early man that fire could drive away the feared beasts of prey, make his food taste good, and warm his body. Thus fire was found to be beneficial. Down through the ages man has discovered the mystical properties of candle burning, associated with various colors."

Cardinal Newman admits in his book that; the "temples, incense, oil lamps, votive offerings, holy water, Holidays, and seasons of devotion, processions, blessings of the fields, sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure (of priests, munks and nuns), images, and statues... are all of PAGAN ORIGIN." -The Development of the Christian Religion Cardinal Newman p.359

The Catholic Encyclopedia also confesses that they got MUSIC from all common PAGAN CULTS.

The justification for getting "out of the box" and having a candlelight service knowing that it will offend many is that we need to rise out of:

Robin Guidicy: Muddling through this life, refusing to grow spiritually, rejecting positive experiences, using or not using the crutch of tradition, you are filled with ignorance or fear, are afraid of the unknown, the unchartered, or the unseen. You live on milk or are reactionary to inconsequential things. Your reaction proves that you are guilty.

We will show that those who depend on the Bible and all of church history know that candles are for giving light or superstitiously used as a small fire to conduct fire worship of the S.U.N. god or Satan.

Therefore, the new revelations intend to use liberties with the Bible and all that happened before them. Those of use labeled by the listed judgmental terms depend on the Bible and how candles were used. Therefore, not using candles as mediators of a religious "moving experience" is based on the rational (spiritual) while superstition is based on ignorance.

However, we are looking at two Words, two Lords and two radically different ways of worshiping a Spirit God. Our God is worshiped in the spirit or mind, theirs is worshiped in the experience sensed in the nerve endings of the carnal body.

From another site notes that:

"Worship should be the mountaintop experience of the week and should leave the worshiper hungering for more. The worshiper should leave each service closer to God, uplifted, fulfilled, inspired, motivated to seek a closer relationship with God and one another.

That's simply not what Jesus or Paul taught. Paul said that he both worshiped and prayed IN THE SPIRIT. That does not mean inside of a God person but in his own mind as He gave heed to the Words of Christ. Worship does not produce a charismatic EXPERIENCE. The "new style worship" seeks to bring the worshipers into the presence with music, performance talent and other idols. However, Paul warned:

That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: Acts 17:27

For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring. Acts 17:28

Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, or silver, or stone, graven by art and mans device. Acts 17:29

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent: Acts 17:30

"Worship" produces a "FALL ON YOUR FACE EXPERIENCE" in my Bible. In a spiritual sense that falling or bowing is to "giving heed to that which is written."

Church is from Ekklesia which was a court to hear testimony and reach decisions. When people "gathered" as church a form of the word "synagogue" was used. The synagogue was a school of the Bible and not a worship center calculated to stimulate the nerve endings to have an experience and leave you hungry.

I wrote to Robin Guidicy more than a year ago but I am still waiting for a response. I will quote Robin in part and you can read the rest if you have good eyes.

The Concerned Members at Madison Church of Christ in Nashville have noted the Hegelian Dialectic as a way to first dissociate people by making them unhappy with the OLD so that they have instill a new VISION. While this may seen like a new process, it was well known by Satan in the garden of Eden and was well documented by Machiavelli and Hitler. It is not a sinister plot: it is also used by advertisers to get you to give away last year's automobile for the new and improved version.

The Y2K Syndrome. People were carefully conditioned to believe that TRUTH would fly away into a BLACK HOLE and do a time travel through a WORM HOLE. Therefore, "just now we don't know what truth is until we get the new message from God." Some believe that it will pop out of a "white hole." Because "white holes" in theory pop out in the past, it comes as no surprise that the new worship styles replacing the church as "school of the Bible" look amazingly like those in Babylon just after the flood.

Therefore, as usual, there is a need to ridicule everything as "traditionalism" to condemn the "old" in order to make way for the "new revelation." But, before you do I would remind you that Joseph Campbell, in Myths to Live By, notes that as people loose faith in their old religion they begin to "crack away" and "revert to the archaic" systems of religion.




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