Saturday, July 19, 2008

Adventist Church president continues call for involvement of women, youth in leadership

Adventist Church president continues call for involvement of women, youth in leadership

Paulsen's latest pastoral dialogue in South America; lay-involvement obviously key for a pastor of 72 churches



Pastor Jan Paulsen met yesterday with seven pastors in South America a Spanish-language dialogue broadcast internationally on the church's Hope Channel. The Adventist world church president brought his usual encouragement of involving women and youth in leadership and urging pastors make time for their families. [photo: courtesy Hope Channel]

The dialogue with pastors was broadcast yesterday from the Adventist Media Center -- Brazil. Though Paulsen asked about local challenges, many issues were similar to those raised during his pastoral dialogues in other parts of the world.

President of the Seventh-day Adventist Church, Pastor Jan Paulsen, brought the latest episode of his live, televised dialogues with pastors to South America yesterday, encouraging local churches to include women and young members in leadership.

Paulsen spoke through a translator during two separate episodes with seven pastors from Spanish- and Portuguese-speaking countries in "Pastors: In Conversation." The third and fourth unscripted telecasts were broadcast internationally on the church's Hope Channel from here at the Adventist Media Center -- Brazil.

When asking about challenges specific to the region, most participants spoke to issues that have resonated in other regional pastoral dialogues: intercultural ministry and training lay leadership.

"The church will do well when the spiritually gifted lay people in the local church are activated," Paulsen said. "A church does not do well when it relies entirely on the pastor."

Paulsen also spoke to another universal challenge of prioritizing one's own family.

"Your wife, your closest partner should also receive a sense that your care for her is not diminished by your care for the church, and that [your] children feel they have a ? high value in your setting aside quality time," Paulsen said.

The task can be a difficult one when some pastors are in charge of more than one church, Paulsen acknowledged. One pastor, Pablo Carbajal from Ecuador, said he pastors 72 different churches.

Paulsen learned from the group that women make up more than 70 percent of local congregations. He asked how they were leading out in ministry.

Carbajal said women made up nearly 70 out of 80 attendees of a recent leadership workshop. Pastor Nelsen Tapia from Chile said many women are involved in a hospitality ministry, while Pastor David Barzola from Argentina said some women are preaching and offering counseling.

Roughly a quarter of a million people join the Adventist Church in South America each year.

Paulsen has hosted previous conversations with pastors in North America and Europe and will host another episode in Africa in August.

"Source: Adventist News Network"

Source: http://news.adventist.org/data/2008/1215032165/index.html.en

P.S. Good Job, your handlers ought to be proud of you! Atta'boy Prez Paulsen, stir up more controversy the world wide church you head is too unified; Stir up disorder and discontent in the local churches; That is your job after all. It must get pretty boring in SILVER Spring, Mary-Land when you need to sow seeds of turmoil in third world countries. Egg them on, why don't you! Encourage dissent: Ordo Ab Chao.

Here's the reason why this is taking place to reproduce in the SDA Church, what's happening here:

Church of England faces split over women bishops

LONDON, UNITED KINGDOM Jul 08 2008 11:46


The Church of England was facing a serious split on Tuesday after its ruling General Synod voted to allow women bishops despite threats by more than 1 300 clergy that they would quit over the issue.

The Synod, the church's legislative body, voted late on Monday to press ahead with the ordination of women bishops and rejected the legal safeguards demanded by traditionalists.

The Synod members voted to approve the drawing-up of a statutory national code of practice to accommodate parishes and clergy who object to women bishops on grounds of conscience.

That fell short of demands by traditionalists, who had wanted new dioceses to be created for parishes and clergy opposed to women bishops.

The Synod also rejected compromise proposals to create a new order of three male "super bishops" to cater for objectors.

The crunch vote at the University of York in northern England followed a passionate six-hour debate that pitched conservatives against liberals and ended with one bishop in tears as he said he was "ashamed" of the Church of England.

The Reverend Stephen Venner, the Bishop of Dover in south-east England, who supports women bishops, said the failure to agree to create "super bishops" meant that every opportunity to allow objectors to "flourish" with the Church had been blocked.

"I have to say, Synod, for the first time in my life, I feel ashamed," he said.

Bishops voted to bring forward legislation to ordain women bishops by 28 to 12, clergy were in favour by 124 to 44 and lay people by 111 to 68.


The Church of England, led by Archbishop of Canterbury Rowan Williams, is the mother church of the worldwide Anglican Communion, which has about 77-million followers.

It first ordained women priests in 1994 amid a storm of controversy.

For conservatives, women and gay clergy -- an issue which has also caused bitter splits in the church in recent years -- cast doubt on the interpretation of Christianity's sacred text, the Bible.

But liberals argue it is time to take a more inclusive approach.

"It seems to me a total nonsense that the church proclaims a gospel of equality for all while seeming to categorise some of its ordained ministers as unacceptable," Reverend Ferial Etherington was quoted as saying by the Times newspaper in the debate.

The Church of England's two most senior figures -- Williams and John Sentamu, the Archbishop of York -- reportedly favoured a compromise that would satisfy both sides.

Sentamu, who was born in Uganda, said: "There is a wonderful African saying: 'He who travels fast, travels alone and he who travels far, travels in the company of others.'

"I would like to travel in company with everybody in the church."

A total of 1 333 clergy have threatened to leave the Church of England if they are not given legal safeguards to set up a network of parishes that would remain under male leadership.

Traditionalists could now quit the Church ahead of its once-a-decade meeting, known as the Lambeth Conference, which starts in the southern English city of Canterbury next week.

"It is getting worse. It is going downhill very badly. It is quite clear there is a pincer movement and we are being squeezed out," a leading traditionalist, Father David Houlding, told the Times.

Liberals and conservatives have been at odds over the ordination of homosexual clergy since the consecration of openly gay Gene Robinson as Bishop of New Hampshire in the United States in 2003.

Nearly 300 conservative Anglican bishops and archbishops formed a breakaway movement, the Fellowship of Confessing Anglicans (FOCA), after a conference in Jerusalem last month.

FOCA claims to represent half of the world's Anglicans and many of its members say they will stay away from the Lambeth Conference. -- AFP