Monday, October 11, 2010
"Everything" skit by Lifehouse -Shiloh SDA Church Cincinnati
get2liz March 15, 2008
Shiloh SDA church in Cincinatti did this powerful skit that's been done in churches everywhere.
Saturday, October 09, 2010
Shipping Our Economy, Our Jobs And Our Prosperity To China
As the U.S. economy continues to implode, large American corporations are investing billions upon billions of dollars in China. But all of this investment comes at a price. Over the past several decades, hundreds of factories and manufacturing facilities that would have been constructed in the United States, along with millions of decent paying jobs, have ended up going to China instead where labor is so much cheaper. In the process, China has become a massive economic powerhouse, while once thriving manufacturing cities in the United States such as Detroit are now rusted-out corpses. In fact, China's economy has grown so rapidly that it is being projected that in 2010 China will replace Japan as the world's second-largest economy. Not only that, but China has already overtaken Germany and is now the biggest exporter of goods in the entire world. But none of this growth in communist China would have been possible without all of the globalism and free trade that U.S. politicians from both parties have been pushing on us for the last 40 years. When they were selling us on the benefits of "free trade" they didn't tell us that we would end up shipping our economy, our jobs and our prosperity over to China.
American consumers never seemed to be able to put two and two together. As we were busy running out and filling up our shopping carts with cheap plastic crap made in China, we didn't seem to realize that a "global economy" meant that we would be competing for jobs and wages with workers on the other side of the world.
So now the U.S. economy, with its high wages and repressive government regulations, is suffering while China's economy is thriving.
So just how much money are U.S. corporations pouring into China?
Well, according to the U.S.-China Business Council, U.S. corporations combined for $3.6 billion in direct foreign investment in China in 2009. That was substantially up from $2.9 billion in 2008.
As U.S. companies pour increasingly large amounts of money into China, the economies of the U.S. and China are becoming inextricably linked.
In fact, some of the biggest "American" success stories are now manufactured in China.
For example, have you purchased an Apple iPhone? Well, if you have, there is a really good chance that it was made in China. Of course what Apple doesn't tell you is that ten workers at the facility in China where the iPhone is manufactured have committed suicide in the past year by jumping off buildings at the factory. Perhaps they were depressed over their low pay - the workers at the factory work very long hours but make less than 300 hundred dollars a month.
How would you like to work for 300 dollars a month?
But things could be even worse.
Reuters recently described the ordeal of one Chinese worker who spends at least eight hours a day standing on an assembly line putting together locks for Honda cars....
"Each year is the same. It makes me sick in the stomach. There's no freshness to things anymore," he said of his job which pays around 30 yuan (US$5) per day.
How in the world can American workers be expected to compete with someone who makes 5 dollars a day?
But some Chinese workers toil in even more difficult conditions. According to the Toronto Star, employees at the Pingdingshan Cotton Textile Company work grueling two day shifts and yet only make 65 cents an hour.
These low wages have enabled big global corporations to make huge profits, and they have helped provide lots of low price products for American consumers, but in the process they are cannibalizing U.S. jobs, factories and businesses.
In fact, it is getting quite hard to find things that are made in the United States anymore. Even many of the "organic foods" that you are buying at organic food stores are now actually made in China.
As tens of millions of American workers sit at home collecting unemployment checks, U.S. companies are busy making plans to invest billions more in China.
According to Pacific Epoch, a China-focused research firm based in Shanghai, Pepsi "has committed $1 billion over the next four years to build 14 new beverage production plants, in a move that will almost double its production capacity in the country."
Couldn't we use a few of those beverage production plants in the United States?
But who wants to pay U.S. workers 12 dollars an hour when they can pay Chinese workers 2 dollars an hour?
But Pepsi is far from alone. Forbes recently detailed the massive investments that some of the major car companies are making in China....
General Motors and Volkswagen have invested billions in China, starting more than a decade ago. Ford is rushing to catch up by adding production capacity and expanding its dealer network in China. Ford and its joint-venture partner, Chang'an Ford Mazda Automobile, plan to start producing next-generation Ford Focus models at a new, $490 million plant in Chongqing in 2012.
Meanwhile, once thriving American manufacturing cities such as Detroit and Flint, Michigan are so dilapidated and run down that they literally look like war zones.
But it is not just U.S. companies that are investing in China. According to China's Ministry of Commerce, overall direct foreign investment in China rose 14 percent to approximately $39 billion in the first five months of 2010. Nearly half of that money was spent on building or expanding factories.
The implications of all this are staggering.
First of all, nobody can deny any longer that China has become a superpower. China now has one of the largest economies in the world, their military has been dramatically upgraded and modernized and they have developed a network of economic and diplomatic contacts around the globe that would have been unthinkable 20 or 30 years ago.
Meanwhile, the United States has an economy that is imploding, a reputation that has been deeply tarnished and a debt that is the largest in the history of the world.
In fact, China owns about a trillion dollars of U.S. government debt.
Yes, the United States is falling and China is rising.
So now that China's economy and manufacturing base has been built up so dramatically, what happens when someday the communist Chinese government decides that it doesn't want to be such great friends with the United States anymore?
If relations between the two nations really go south someday, could U.S. corporations suddenly lose the billions upon billions that they have poured into China?
Also, many Chinese military strategists believe that it is inevitable that there will be a war between the United States and China someday. So could China end up using all of the technology and manufacturing capacity that they have gained at our expense against us someday?
The truth is that all of the money and technology that we have poured into China could end up being one of the greatest national security blunders of all time.
China is not a democracy. The Communist Party runs China, and most of their leaders still believe in the ultimate worldwide triumph of communism.
So in the end the United States may look back and realize how incredibly stupid it was to build up communist China at the expense of our own economy.
But this is the world our leaders have built for us. A world where globalism and "free trade" force us to compete for jobs against sweatshop laborers around the globe.
The reality is that this "new world" is not very good at all for the American middle class. The economic realities of the 21st century are very cruel for Americans who are seeking to live a middle class lifestyle.
Gradually, everyone in the world is being pushed into two economic groups. The massive global corporations that dominate everyone and everything, and the worldwide mass of expendable labor that serves those global corporations.
It is this kind of "neo-feudalism" that we must avoid at all costs. If the American people would just wake up this trend towards increasing globalism could be reversed.
But will they wake up?
American consumers never seemed to be able to put two and two together. As we were busy running out and filling up our shopping carts with cheap plastic crap made in China, we didn't seem to realize that a "global economy" meant that we would be competing for jobs and wages with workers on the other side of the world.
So now the U.S. economy, with its high wages and repressive government regulations, is suffering while China's economy is thriving.
So just how much money are U.S. corporations pouring into China?
Well, according to the U.S.-China Business Council, U.S. corporations combined for $3.6 billion in direct foreign investment in China in 2009. That was substantially up from $2.9 billion in 2008.
As U.S. companies pour increasingly large amounts of money into China, the economies of the U.S. and China are becoming inextricably linked.
In fact, some of the biggest "American" success stories are now manufactured in China.
For example, have you purchased an Apple iPhone? Well, if you have, there is a really good chance that it was made in China. Of course what Apple doesn't tell you is that ten workers at the facility in China where the iPhone is manufactured have committed suicide in the past year by jumping off buildings at the factory. Perhaps they were depressed over their low pay - the workers at the factory work very long hours but make less than 300 hundred dollars a month.
How would you like to work for 300 dollars a month?
But things could be even worse.
Reuters recently described the ordeal of one Chinese worker who spends at least eight hours a day standing on an assembly line putting together locks for Honda cars....
"Each year is the same. It makes me sick in the stomach. There's no freshness to things anymore," he said of his job which pays around 30 yuan (US$5) per day.
How in the world can American workers be expected to compete with someone who makes 5 dollars a day?
But some Chinese workers toil in even more difficult conditions. According to the Toronto Star, employees at the Pingdingshan Cotton Textile Company work grueling two day shifts and yet only make 65 cents an hour.
These low wages have enabled big global corporations to make huge profits, and they have helped provide lots of low price products for American consumers, but in the process they are cannibalizing U.S. jobs, factories and businesses.
In fact, it is getting quite hard to find things that are made in the United States anymore. Even many of the "organic foods" that you are buying at organic food stores are now actually made in China.
As tens of millions of American workers sit at home collecting unemployment checks, U.S. companies are busy making plans to invest billions more in China.
According to Pacific Epoch, a China-focused research firm based in Shanghai, Pepsi "has committed $1 billion over the next four years to build 14 new beverage production plants, in a move that will almost double its production capacity in the country."
Couldn't we use a few of those beverage production plants in the United States?
But who wants to pay U.S. workers 12 dollars an hour when they can pay Chinese workers 2 dollars an hour?
But Pepsi is far from alone. Forbes recently detailed the massive investments that some of the major car companies are making in China....
General Motors and Volkswagen have invested billions in China, starting more than a decade ago. Ford is rushing to catch up by adding production capacity and expanding its dealer network in China. Ford and its joint-venture partner, Chang'an Ford Mazda Automobile, plan to start producing next-generation Ford Focus models at a new, $490 million plant in Chongqing in 2012.
Meanwhile, once thriving American manufacturing cities such as Detroit and Flint, Michigan are so dilapidated and run down that they literally look like war zones.
But it is not just U.S. companies that are investing in China. According to China's Ministry of Commerce, overall direct foreign investment in China rose 14 percent to approximately $39 billion in the first five months of 2010. Nearly half of that money was spent on building or expanding factories.
The implications of all this are staggering.
First of all, nobody can deny any longer that China has become a superpower. China now has one of the largest economies in the world, their military has been dramatically upgraded and modernized and they have developed a network of economic and diplomatic contacts around the globe that would have been unthinkable 20 or 30 years ago.
Meanwhile, the United States has an economy that is imploding, a reputation that has been deeply tarnished and a debt that is the largest in the history of the world.
In fact, China owns about a trillion dollars of U.S. government debt.
Yes, the United States is falling and China is rising.
So now that China's economy and manufacturing base has been built up so dramatically, what happens when someday the communist Chinese government decides that it doesn't want to be such great friends with the United States anymore?
If relations between the two nations really go south someday, could U.S. corporations suddenly lose the billions upon billions that they have poured into China?
Also, many Chinese military strategists believe that it is inevitable that there will be a war between the United States and China someday. So could China end up using all of the technology and manufacturing capacity that they have gained at our expense against us someday?
The truth is that all of the money and technology that we have poured into China could end up being one of the greatest national security blunders of all time.
China is not a democracy. The Communist Party runs China, and most of their leaders still believe in the ultimate worldwide triumph of communism.
So in the end the United States may look back and realize how incredibly stupid it was to build up communist China at the expense of our own economy.
But this is the world our leaders have built for us. A world where globalism and "free trade" force us to compete for jobs against sweatshop laborers around the globe.
The reality is that this "new world" is not very good at all for the American middle class. The economic realities of the 21st century are very cruel for Americans who are seeking to live a middle class lifestyle.
Gradually, everyone in the world is being pushed into two economic groups. The massive global corporations that dominate everyone and everything, and the worldwide mass of expendable labor that serves those global corporations.
It is this kind of "neo-feudalism" that we must avoid at all costs. If the American people would just wake up this trend towards increasing globalism could be reversed.
But will they wake up?
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Report condemns US funding of Taliban
Scandal
08/10 18:01 CET
The Taliban in Afghanistan are receiving money from the US government because recruitment of private security personnel is not being vetted enough.
A report by America’s Senate Armed Services Committee has revealed that some contractors are funnelling money to Afghan warlords.
The Chair of the committee, Carl Levin, said “failures to adequately vet, train and supervise armed security personnel have been wide spread.”
He added that “posed grave risks to US and coalition troops as well as Afghan civilians.”
The report found some contractors were linked to “murder, kidnapping, bribery and anti-coalition activities.”
Others gave money directly to the Taliban to buy weapons to use against US troops.
It recommended immediate steps be taken to improve the vetting of security personnel.
Source
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08/10 18:01 CET
The Taliban in Afghanistan are receiving money from the US government because recruitment of private security personnel is not being vetted enough.
A report by America’s Senate Armed Services Committee has revealed that some contractors are funnelling money to Afghan warlords.
The Chair of the committee, Carl Levin, said “failures to adequately vet, train and supervise armed security personnel have been wide spread.”
He added that “posed grave risks to US and coalition troops as well as Afghan civilians.”
The report found some contractors were linked to “murder, kidnapping, bribery and anti-coalition activities.”
Others gave money directly to the Taliban to buy weapons to use against US troops.
It recommended immediate steps be taken to improve the vetting of security personnel.
Source
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Gang goes on sick rampage, sodomizing teen with plunger and forcing another to burn lover with cigs
BY Rocco Parascandola, Joe Jackson and Corky Siemaszko
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Saturday, October 9th 2010, 4:00 AM
Florescu for News
DAILY NEWS WRITERS
Saturday, October 9th 2010, 4:00 AM
Florescu for News
The so-called Latin King Goonies used Osborne Place building as headquarters for their sick attacks.
Fueled by hate for homosexuals, a sick crew of Bronx gang members went on a wave of sadistic violence that included forcing a teen to burn his gay lover with cigarettes, cops said Friday.
The cowardly creeps then made the 17-year-old watch as they sodomized the tortured man with a miniature baseball bat.
The gang members, who call themselves the Latin King Goonies, also sodomized another 17-year-old with a toilet plunger before capping their reign of terror by beating up and robbing a fourth person. The last man attacked was the older brother of one of the earlier victims.
"These suspects employed terrible, wolf-pack odds of nine against one, odds which revealed them as predators whose crimes were as cowardly as they were despicable," Police Commissioner Raymond Kelly said.
Seven hoods, ages from 16 to 23, have been rounded up. Cops are looking for at least two other members of the cruel crew, Kelly said.
Their leader was identified by sources as 23-year-old Ildefonso (Cheto) Mendez. They're charged with unlawful imprisonment, abduction, assault, robbery, menacing and sodomy - all as hate crimes.
The suspects, including one who was taken out of the 41st Precinct stationhouse on a stretcher and transported to a hospital because of a seizure, were waiting to be arraigned last night.
They were still passing blame to one another last night, said a law enforcement source.
"Nobody wants to take responsibility for the plunger," the source said. "One guy is lying through his teeth."
"This was not part of an initiation," Kelly said. "This was a reaction to the fact that they had engaged in homosexual activity."
The arrests came just days after two young men were busted for attacking a gay man in the bathroom of the Stonewall Inn, the birthplace of the gay rights movement.
And with gay-bashing on the uptick - 44 attacks as of Monday compared with 41 at the same time last year - city leaders reacted with outrage.
"These attacks are appalling and are even more despicable because the victims were clearly targeted in acts of hate simply because they are gay," City Council Speaker Christine Quinn said.
"Bronxites will not tolerate any form of bigotry in our borough," Bronx Borough President Ruben Diaz Jr. said.
The torture took place in an abandoned Morris Heights building across the street from a public school. Area residents called it the Goonie House. Gang members threw parties and had sex there. As many as a dozen pit bulls guarded the place.
"They'd have meets there every Friday," said a 33-year-old woman too terrified to reveal her name. "They're running crazy from there - hurting people, taking stuff. Latin Kings don't let gay people in their nation."
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At Europe’s Helm, a Steady Hand With Little Pomp
Gael Turine for The New York Times“I had a very important task in Belgium. I felt I was the only one capable of finding a solution. There are moments you’re irreplaceable and others you can die and be replaced the next day.” Herman Van Rompuy
By STEVEN ERLANGER and STEPHEN CASTLE
Published: October 8, 2010
WHEN a visit to the United Nations was canceled abruptly last month, the European Union’s new president, Herman Van Rompuy, headed instead for somewhere he says he feels really at home: Affligem Abbey, a Benedictine monastery in the countryside here, founded in 1062.
Mr. Van Rompuy spent a day in a simple room, attending services and eating in a cavernous hall where monks listen to readings from a library of 70,000 books. And he also likes the beer, one of Belgium’s most famous, now brewed under license from the monks.
Published: October 8, 2010
WHEN a visit to the United Nations was canceled abruptly last month, the European Union’s new president, Herman Van Rompuy, headed instead for somewhere he says he feels really at home: Affligem Abbey, a Benedictine monastery in the countryside here, founded in 1062.
Mr. Van Rompuy spent a day in a simple room, attending services and eating in a cavernous hall where monks listen to readings from a library of 70,000 books. And he also likes the beer, one of Belgium’s most famous, now brewed under license from the monks.
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A Roman Catholic, Mr. Van Rompuy often seems to be fighting to conquer the sin of pride — in his manner, his dress (he favors brown) and his lack of affectation. But it is a struggle he sometimes loses. He is a man who feels inferior, it can be said, to few, and he is convinced that the modest and back-room fashion in which he is guiding Europe — and quietly expanding his influence — is the only possible way to do it.
A Roman Catholic, Mr. Van Rompuy often seems to be fighting to conquer the sin of pride — in his manner, his dress (he favors brown) and his lack of affectation. But it is a struggle he sometimes loses. He is a man who feels inferior, it can be said, to few, and he is convinced that the modest and back-room fashion in which he is guiding Europe — and quietly expanding his influence — is the only possible way to do it.
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Our Cities Too Big For Quality of Life
What kind of quality of life do mega-cities present to their citizens? What qualities do they bring to parents and children? How do they address the spirit of humanity at the personal level? From their inception, large sky-scraper-dominated and sprawling cities around the world represent the worst of humanity. Ayn Rand, in her bestselling book, Atlas Shrugged, praised sky-scrapers as humanity’s highest achievement......
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Primate's Speech at Glendale Adventist Medical Center
Published on Apr 21 2010 by Divan of the Diocese
On April 21, 2010, the Glendale Adventist Medical Center had organized a Service in Memory of the victims of the Armenian Genocide. At 9:45 AM, His Eminence Archbishop Hovnan Derderian, Primate of the Western Diocese of the Armenian Church in North America delivered his message in the chapel of the hospital.
The Primate was joined by Rev. Archpriest Fr. Hovsep Hagopian and Rev. Fr. Khajag Shahbazyan. The members of the clergy also visited patients in the hospital offered prayers and spiritual support.
We kindly present to you the Primate's message in its entirety.
"Prayer is a man's spiritual breathing. Just as our physical body needs to breathe in order to live, so does our soul require prayer in order to remain healthy and live forever". (H.H. Karekin I)
Dear brothers and sisters, I have intentionally chosen these words from the writings of one of the distinguished church leaders, which clearly reflect the faith-life of Christian Armenians who have embraced Christianity as the God-given mission. Additionally, it is through the divine strength of prayer that allowed us not to instill in our hearts hatred towards those who have harmed us and perpetrated the Genocide of a nation. However, it is through the same prayer that we are led to honor the memory of our ancestors who have been massacred and experienced mass deportations from their ancestral lands and have been dispersed around the world.
"Prayer is our evaluation, by our life and deeds, of what God has given us". These words indicate that whatever God has given to us, namely life itself, we are obliged to guard and protect it.
As we lift up our hearts and prayers in this hospital, we acknowledge the dedication and good services of wonderful people, whose respect for the human life is most notable and remarkable. The outstanding services rendered to all members of the community is nothing else than the God pleasing act, which directly speaks against all levels of crime against humanity. The Adventist Church and the missionaries have witnessed the first Genocide of the twentieth century and raised their voice for justice. Historical truth cannot be distorted by people and time. Recognition of historical truth brings peace and comfort to the hearts of all nations.
To me personally, and to the priests and faithful of the Armenian Church, the prayer we offer in this hospital as we commemorate the 95th anniversary of the victims of the Genocide, is the most educational and inspiring initiative to send the members of the community a message of hope and love. Hospitals, as is the case of all important institutions, are called to serve the physical as well as the spiritual comfort of the people. As the patient who suffers the physical pain and is in dire need of soothing and care, so is the case with those who have been traumatized by the discomforting witnessing accounts of the survivors of the Genocide.
Year after year, the Glendale Adventist Hospital has commemorated the memory of the victims of the Genocide and has honored their memory with special prayers being offered together with the hospital administrative staff. This most respectful gesture sends out to all, a strong message that life needs to be protected and honored, cherished and nurtured as it has been commanded by God. God bless you all and grant you all the strength and wisdom to share your gift of love and dedication with the patients and their beloved ones, to establish peace and harmony in the life of the community.
Prayerfully,
Archbishop Hovnan Derderian
The Primate was joined by Rev. Archpriest Fr. Hovsep Hagopian and Rev. Fr. Khajag Shahbazyan. The members of the clergy also visited patients in the hospital offered prayers and spiritual support.
We kindly present to you the Primate's message in its entirety.
"Prayer is a man's spiritual breathing. Just as our physical body needs to breathe in order to live, so does our soul require prayer in order to remain healthy and live forever". (H.H. Karekin I)
Dear brothers and sisters, I have intentionally chosen these words from the writings of one of the distinguished church leaders, which clearly reflect the faith-life of Christian Armenians who have embraced Christianity as the God-given mission. Additionally, it is through the divine strength of prayer that allowed us not to instill in our hearts hatred towards those who have harmed us and perpetrated the Genocide of a nation. However, it is through the same prayer that we are led to honor the memory of our ancestors who have been massacred and experienced mass deportations from their ancestral lands and have been dispersed around the world.
"Prayer is our evaluation, by our life and deeds, of what God has given us". These words indicate that whatever God has given to us, namely life itself, we are obliged to guard and protect it.
As we lift up our hearts and prayers in this hospital, we acknowledge the dedication and good services of wonderful people, whose respect for the human life is most notable and remarkable. The outstanding services rendered to all members of the community is nothing else than the God pleasing act, which directly speaks against all levels of crime against humanity. The Adventist Church and the missionaries have witnessed the first Genocide of the twentieth century and raised their voice for justice. Historical truth cannot be distorted by people and time. Recognition of historical truth brings peace and comfort to the hearts of all nations.
To me personally, and to the priests and faithful of the Armenian Church, the prayer we offer in this hospital as we commemorate the 95th anniversary of the victims of the Genocide, is the most educational and inspiring initiative to send the members of the community a message of hope and love. Hospitals, as is the case of all important institutions, are called to serve the physical as well as the spiritual comfort of the people. As the patient who suffers the physical pain and is in dire need of soothing and care, so is the case with those who have been traumatized by the discomforting witnessing accounts of the survivors of the Genocide.
Year after year, the Glendale Adventist Hospital has commemorated the memory of the victims of the Genocide and has honored their memory with special prayers being offered together with the hospital administrative staff. This most respectful gesture sends out to all, a strong message that life needs to be protected and honored, cherished and nurtured as it has been commanded by God. God bless you all and grant you all the strength and wisdom to share your gift of love and dedication with the patients and their beloved ones, to establish peace and harmony in the life of the community.
Prayerfully,
Archbishop Hovnan Derderian
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Have mercy upon us, O LORD
Psalm 123
1Unto thee lift I up mine eyes, O thou that dwellest in the heavens.
2Behold, as the eyes of servants look unto the hand of their masters, and as the eyes of a maiden unto the hand of her mistress; so our eyes wait upon the LORD our God, until that he have mercy upon us.
3Have mercy upon us, O LORD, have mercy upon us: for we are exceedingly filled with contempt.
4Our soul is exceedingly filled with the scorning of those that are at ease, and with the contempt of the proud.
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Friday, October 08, 2010
GALEN HOLLEY: It’s a small world, even for Catholics and Adventists
Photo (Courtesy) http://nems360.com/view/full_story/5719492/article-Colts--Galen--vs--Saints--Chris--Who-will-win-the-Super-Bowl-?instance=secondary_stories_left_column by Galen Holley/NEMS Daily Journal Nems360.Com
6 days ago
I get a lot of kidding about being Catholic. I even get some mean-spirited criticism. A year after I started working here one of my critics wrote in. To paraphrase, he said, “I detect, Mr. Holley, a strong, Roman Catholic emphasis on the religion page. You should know that most of your readers aren’t Catholic.”
I’m still scratching my head over that one. In the three years I’ve been here I can count the number of Catholic features I’ve done on one hand.
During my time here I’ve made a lot of friends among the ranks of Northeast Mississippi pastors. Ray Elsberry, the pastor at Tupelo Seventh-Day Adventist Church, is one of them. I liked Bro. Ray the moment I met him. He’s an old-fashioned country preacher, complete with walking cane and suspenders. He’s also a sincere, good-natured man who can laugh at himself.
One of these days I mean to ask Ray, given that Seventh-Day Adventists generally follow such healthy dietary guidelines, how, like me, he’s managed to become so rotund.
When I interview Ray he tends to start almost every sentence with, “Now, don’t take this the wrong way, Galen.” When he says that I know he’s about to lower the boom on the Catholic Church.
Ray will inevitably bring up how pope so-and-so, back in the 300’s, did something awful. I’ll say, “Well, OK,” and Ray and I will both end up laughing.
Perhaps Ray and I get along so well because we both belong to denominations that a lot of people around here think are weird.
When many people hear mention of Seventh-Day Adventists they think of David Koresh, the man whose insanity brought about his own death and those of dozens of his followers when the FBI raided their Texas compound in 1993.
As Ray explains it to me, the Branch Davidians, of which Koresh and his followers were members, are about as far removed from actual Seventh-Day Adventists as members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, many of whom are polygamists, are from actual LDS.
In both cases, the only connection between the groups dates back to a split that happened decades ago, and, in both cases, neither group today has anything to do with the other.
I don’t think Ray and the members of his church are weird. They hold some different beliefs than I do, but, when you stop and think about, most religious people hold some pretty weird beliefs.
Christianity in general makes some pretty outrageous claims. Most of its basic tenets are offensive to the rational mind.
In researching this story I discovered that the place where I attended graduate school, the roof under which I slept for a year, in cozy Takoma Park, Maryland, is the building that formerly housed the world headquarters of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. The denomination’s current headquarters is one Metro stop north, in Silver Spring.
I’m pretty sure, based on the mutual distrust between Adventists and Catholics, that my school had to buy the building through a third party.
I haven’t mentioned a word of this to Ray, so he’s probably reading it now for the first time. It’s a small world, isn’t it Ray, old buddy?
Contact Daily Journal religion editor Galen Holley at 678-1510 or galen.holley@djournal.com
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6 days ago
I get a lot of kidding about being Catholic. I even get some mean-spirited criticism. A year after I started working here one of my critics wrote in. To paraphrase, he said, “I detect, Mr. Holley, a strong, Roman Catholic emphasis on the religion page. You should know that most of your readers aren’t Catholic.”
I’m still scratching my head over that one. In the three years I’ve been here I can count the number of Catholic features I’ve done on one hand.
During my time here I’ve made a lot of friends among the ranks of Northeast Mississippi pastors. Ray Elsberry, the pastor at Tupelo Seventh-Day Adventist Church, is one of them. I liked Bro. Ray the moment I met him. He’s an old-fashioned country preacher, complete with walking cane and suspenders. He’s also a sincere, good-natured man who can laugh at himself.
One of these days I mean to ask Ray, given that Seventh-Day Adventists generally follow such healthy dietary guidelines, how, like me, he’s managed to become so rotund.
When I interview Ray he tends to start almost every sentence with, “Now, don’t take this the wrong way, Galen.” When he says that I know he’s about to lower the boom on the Catholic Church.
Ray will inevitably bring up how pope so-and-so, back in the 300’s, did something awful. I’ll say, “Well, OK,” and Ray and I will both end up laughing.
Perhaps Ray and I get along so well because we both belong to denominations that a lot of people around here think are weird.
When many people hear mention of Seventh-Day Adventists they think of David Koresh, the man whose insanity brought about his own death and those of dozens of his followers when the FBI raided their Texas compound in 1993.
As Ray explains it to me, the Branch Davidians, of which Koresh and his followers were members, are about as far removed from actual Seventh-Day Adventists as members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, many of whom are polygamists, are from actual LDS.
In both cases, the only connection between the groups dates back to a split that happened decades ago, and, in both cases, neither group today has anything to do with the other.
I don’t think Ray and the members of his church are weird. They hold some different beliefs than I do, but, when you stop and think about, most religious people hold some pretty weird beliefs.
Christianity in general makes some pretty outrageous claims. Most of its basic tenets are offensive to the rational mind.
In researching this story I discovered that the place where I attended graduate school, the roof under which I slept for a year, in cozy Takoma Park, Maryland, is the building that formerly housed the world headquarters of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church. The denomination’s current headquarters is one Metro stop north, in Silver Spring.
I’m pretty sure, based on the mutual distrust between Adventists and Catholics, that my school had to buy the building through a third party.
I haven’t mentioned a word of this to Ray, so he’s probably reading it now for the first time. It’s a small world, isn’t it Ray, old buddy?
Contact Daily Journal religion editor Galen Holley at 678-1510 or galen.holley@djournal.com
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Castro’s daughter speaks at Southern Adventist
Friday, Oct. 8, 2010
By: Perla Trevizo
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Staff photo by Dan Henry/Chattanooga Times Free Press - October 07, 2010. Alina Fernandez, the daughter of Fidel Castro, speaks to students at Southern Adventist University about Cuba on Thursday. Fernandez, an outspoken critic of the Cuban communist regime, fled her home country in 1993 and now lives in Florida.
By: Perla Trevizo
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Staff photo by Dan Henry/Chattanooga Times Free Press - October 07, 2010. Alina Fernandez, the daughter of Fidel Castro, speaks to students at Southern Adventist University about Cuba on Thursday. Fernandez, an outspoken critic of the Cuban communist regime, fled her home country in 1993 and now lives in Florida.
Alina Fernandez remembers a January morning in 1959 when Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck vanished from her television screen forever and were replaced by bearded men in military outfits.
It was the day Fidel Castro, whom she later learned was her father, took control of Cuba.
Fernandez, an outspoken critic of her father and the Cuban communist regime, spoke Thursday morning to more than 1,500 students at Southern Adventist University. The event was hosted by the Latin American Club.
When she gives speeches, she combines her personal story with her country’s history, hoping to further the understanding of Cubans, she said after her presentation.
“I don’t have a specific message,” she said in Spanish. “What I want is for an exchange. A lot of people don’t understand the influence Cuba has had; a lot of people don’t understand what Cubans have lived; a lot of people don’t understand why some unkempt people come in rafts trying to get into the United States.
“I want to defend my community,” added Fernandez, who currently has a radio show in Miami.
For Trevor Silva, a freshman majoring in history at Southern Adventist, Fernandez’s story was inspirational.
“It showed that people care once they leave [Cuba]. It shows the country is united,” he said after he had a friend take a photo of him with Fernandez.
In her presentation, which she gave in English, Fernandez joked about how her mother, Natalia, met Fidel Castro when both were married to other people.
She attributed Castro’s attraction for her mother to her curves, which resembled a Coca-Cola bottle, she told a chuckling group of students.
She wasn’t the first one in her family to escape from Cuba. In 1964, her stepfather and stepsister fled to the United States, becoming “worms” and “traitors,” as the Cuban regime called those who left the country.
“One of Cuba’s tragedies is that you become the enemy when you don’t think the way they think and they treat you like [an enemy],” she said.
As she grew older, she saw how her country changed, how families were being separated and she didn’t agree with it.
“Religion disappeared ... cultural life suffered a terrible hit,” she said.
In 1989, she publicly joined the political dissidents and four years later fled Cuba disguised as a Spanish tourist. She had to leave behind her daughter, 16 at the time, but after strong media and international pressure, her daughter was able to join her several weeks later, she said.
Fernandez said she is pleased to see that people care about Cuba because, when change comes, “we are going to need all the solidarity and help possible.”
And though she doesn’t doubt change is coming to her home country, she can’t say when.
ABOUT ALINA FERNANDEZ REVUELTA
* Born in Cuba in 1956
* Daughter of Natalia Revuelta and Fidel Castro, who took control of Cuba in 1959
* Fled Cuba in 1993
* Wrote an autobiography in 1998
* Currently lives in Florida with her daughter Alina, 33.
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The Infallibility of the Pope — Basic Facts About an Essential Dogma
by Catholicism.org April 25th, 2005
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Infallibility: The Dogma
Before proceeding any further, let us read the definition of papal infallibility as it was promulgated at the First Vatican Council in 1870:
Faithfully adhering to the tradition received from the beginning of the Christian faith … we teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and teacher of all Christians, by virture of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regardging faith and morals to be held by the universal Church, by the divine assistance promised him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for degining doctrine regarding faith and morals; and that, therefore, such definitions of the Roman Pontiffs are irreformable of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church.
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Infallibility: The Dogma
Before proceeding any further, let us read the definition of papal infallibility as it was promulgated at the First Vatican Council in 1870:
Faithfully adhering to the tradition received from the beginning of the Christian faith … we teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed that the Roman Pontiff, when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and teacher of all Christians, by virture of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regardging faith and morals to be held by the universal Church, by the divine assistance promised him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that His Church should be endowed for degining doctrine regarding faith and morals; and that, therefore, such definitions of the Roman Pontiffs are irreformable of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church.
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North Americans to participate in Synod of Bishops for Middle East
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North Americans to participate in Synod of Bishops for Middle East
By Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Of the 185 voting members of the special Synod of Bishops for the Middle East, 12 are bishops who minister in the United States and Canada.
Like the synod membership as a whole, most of the North American participants are bishops of the Eastern Catholic churches: Melkite, Maronite, Chaldean, Syrian, Armenian or Coptic.
The full list of participants in the Oct. 10-24 synod was released at the Vatican Oct. 8 during a press briefing by Archbishop Nikola Eterovic, secretary general of the Synod of Bishops.
Pope Benedict XVI named Msgr. Robert L. Stern, general secretary of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, to be a voting member of the synod.
And three Latin-rite bishops from North America are participating: Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles, Archbishop Allen H. Vigneron of Detroit, and Archbishop Thomas Collins of Toronto.
More North American participants are involved because of their ministry in Rome. Cardinal William J. Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is a synod member, as are Cardinal John P. Foley, grand master of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem, and Archbishop Raymond L. Burke, prefect of the Supreme Court of the Apostolic Signature.
The other North American members of the synod are:
-- Syrian Bishop Yousif Habash of Our Lady of Deliverance of Newark, N.J.
-- Melkite Bishop Ibrahim M. Ibrahim of Saint-Sauveur of Montreal.
-- Melkite Bishop Cyrille S. Bustros of Newton, Mass.
-- Maronite Bishop Joseph Khoury of Saint-Maron of Montreal.
-- Maronite Bishop Robert J. Shaheen of Our Lady of Lebanon of Los Angeles.
-- Maronite Bishop Gregory J. Mansour of St. Maron of Brooklyn, N.Y.
-- Chaldean Bishop Sarhad Y. Jammo of St. Peter the Apostle of San Diego.
-- Chaldean Bishop Ibrahim N. Ibrahim of St. Thomas the Apostle of Detroit.
-- Armenian Bishop Manuel Batakian of Our Lady of Nareg in New York.
Benedictine Father Mark Sheridan, a U.S. member of the International Association for Coptic Studies, was named an expert at the synod.
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North Americans to participate in Synod of Bishops for Middle East
By Catholic News Service
VATICAN CITY (CNS) -- Of the 185 voting members of the special Synod of Bishops for the Middle East, 12 are bishops who minister in the United States and Canada.
Like the synod membership as a whole, most of the North American participants are bishops of the Eastern Catholic churches: Melkite, Maronite, Chaldean, Syrian, Armenian or Coptic.
The full list of participants in the Oct. 10-24 synod was released at the Vatican Oct. 8 during a press briefing by Archbishop Nikola Eterovic, secretary general of the Synod of Bishops.
Pope Benedict XVI named Msgr. Robert L. Stern, general secretary of the Catholic Near East Welfare Association, to be a voting member of the synod.
And three Latin-rite bishops from North America are participating: Cardinal Roger M. Mahony of Los Angeles, Archbishop Allen H. Vigneron of Detroit, and Archbishop Thomas Collins of Toronto.
More North American participants are involved because of their ministry in Rome. Cardinal William J. Levada, prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, is a synod member, as are Cardinal John P. Foley, grand master of the Equestrian Order of the Holy Sepulcher of Jerusalem, and Archbishop Raymond L. Burke, prefect of the Supreme Court of the Apostolic Signature.
The other North American members of the synod are:
-- Syrian Bishop Yousif Habash of Our Lady of Deliverance of Newark, N.J.
-- Melkite Bishop Ibrahim M. Ibrahim of Saint-Sauveur of Montreal.
-- Melkite Bishop Cyrille S. Bustros of Newton, Mass.
-- Maronite Bishop Joseph Khoury of Saint-Maron of Montreal.
-- Maronite Bishop Robert J. Shaheen of Our Lady of Lebanon of Los Angeles.
-- Maronite Bishop Gregory J. Mansour of St. Maron of Brooklyn, N.Y.
-- Chaldean Bishop Sarhad Y. Jammo of St. Peter the Apostle of San Diego.
-- Chaldean Bishop Ibrahim N. Ibrahim of St. Thomas the Apostle of Detroit.
-- Armenian Bishop Manuel Batakian of Our Lady of Nareg in New York.
Benedictine Father Mark Sheridan, a U.S. member of the International Association for Coptic Studies, was named an expert at the synod.
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Thursday, October 07, 2010
Did the JESUITS Play Their WILD CARD & the JOKE(R) is on us???...
“Obama’s Chicago mentor” is “Gregory Galluzzo – a ‘former’ Jesuit priest….” [Jesuit Temporal Coadjutor and featured writer for the Pope's American neo-fascist Executive Intelligence Review, Webster Tarpley, mentions Galluzzo in his book, Barack H. Obama: The Unauthorized Biography.]
“Obama’s Chief Speechwriter, Jon Favreau, was Jesuit-trained.”
“Obama’s Senior Military and Foreign Policy Advisor, Maj. Gen. J. Scott Gration, was Jesuit-trained.”
“Obama’s Deputy Communications Director, Dan Pfeiffer, was Jesuit-trained.”
How many other Jesuit agents Mr. Obama has on his team we may never know, for as American historian J. Wayne Laurens writes: “They [the Jesuits] are not merely priests, or of one religious creed; they are merchants [Wall Street Bankers] … and editors, and men of any profession, having no outward badge by which to be recognized…. “
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“Obama’s Chief Speechwriter, Jon Favreau, was Jesuit-trained.”
“Obama’s Senior Military and Foreign Policy Advisor, Maj. Gen. J. Scott Gration, was Jesuit-trained.”
“Obama’s Deputy Communications Director, Dan Pfeiffer, was Jesuit-trained.”
How many other Jesuit agents Mr. Obama has on his team we may never know, for as American historian J. Wayne Laurens writes: “They [the Jesuits] are not merely priests, or of one religious creed; they are merchants [Wall Street Bankers] … and editors, and men of any profession, having no outward badge by which to be recognized…. “
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Obama Places Jesuits in Position of Power (Updated)
Obama Places Jesuits in Position of Power
July 3, 2009 by author/editor/curator
We should be very afraid because Jesuits have been behind some of the most awful events in history. Their aim is to destroy any country that is a Protestant nation and replace it with chaos in the expectation the Royal Catholic Church can eventually pick up the pieces. This destruction of Protestantism is even in their oath!!
I have to say I am surprised at the large number of them. And after researching this I am not so surprised that the country is being destroyed. Destruction of America is the goal of the Jesuits. Research it for yourself and weep or do something about it.
What? Do what?
First, educate yourself about their intentions. Start with Professor Walter J. Veith who has a video detailing just who they are, what they want and how they are doing it. And what they want to accomplish which is to send us back to a life reminiscient of 1500 era Europe. Rerum Novarum, anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dA1fHU8scLc
You’ll find more of these on youtube.
Secondly, become aware of who these people are and express yourself to the elected officials who slip them into positions of power. We gotta pay better attention to the agents of the enemy that keep getting slipped into the power structure.
NOTE: This is an updated version of an article previously posted: (http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/search?q=Obama+Places+Jesuits+in+Position+of+Power+). The are problems with the links with the above mentioned article.
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Wednesday, October 06, 2010
“Obama always carries a picture of Mary Help of Christians in his wallet”
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13/8/2010 - Spain - “Obama always carries a picture of Mary Help of Christians in his wallet”
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13/8/2010 - Spain - “Obama always carries a picture of Mary Help of Christians in his wallet”
(ANS – Ronda) – During her visit to Casa Don Bosco in Ronda, Michelle Obama, wife of Barack, revealed that her husband, the President of the United States, “always carries a picture of Mary Help of Christians in his wallet”. On Saturday 7 August, Mrs Obama spent four hours in Ronda, admiring the monuments and enjoying the beautiful scenery: “Ronda is absolutely incredible”, she kept saying.
From early morning the city of Ronda was invaded by police and security personnel from the American Embassy and much of the historic part of the city was closed to traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian.
Although it had been planned to make the church of Santa Maria la Mayor the first stop, in order to send the journalists towards Tajo, the presidential party went first to Casa Don Bosco, a modernist building of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, noted for its marvellous gardens, and the home of the Salesian community in the city.
During her stay in the Salesian house, Michelle told the parish priest of Santa Maria, in charge of the Salesian community, that her husband, Barack Obama always carries with him a photograph with an image of Mary Help of Christians, to whom, those present reported, the first family of the United States has great devotion.
When the security services left, Mrs Obama and her daughter Sasha made their way on foot to the Church of Santa Maria la Mayor, and later visited the Palace of the Arabian King and the Mine. In the afternoon, after a break for lunch, the first lady of the United States also saw the monumental Plaza de Toros, the city bullring.
As on her arrival, the first lady smiled and waved as she took her leave of the citizens and tourists in Ronda, and went back to the summer residence of Beahavís. From there she set off on Sunday 8 August to meet the Spanish Royal Family in Mallorca.
Published 13/8/2010 .
From early morning the city of Ronda was invaded by police and security personnel from the American Embassy and much of the historic part of the city was closed to traffic, both vehicular and pedestrian.
Although it had been planned to make the church of Santa Maria la Mayor the first stop, in order to send the journalists towards Tajo, the presidential party went first to Casa Don Bosco, a modernist building of the nineteenth and twentieth centuries, noted for its marvellous gardens, and the home of the Salesian community in the city.
During her stay in the Salesian house, Michelle told the parish priest of Santa Maria, in charge of the Salesian community, that her husband, Barack Obama always carries with him a photograph with an image of Mary Help of Christians, to whom, those present reported, the first family of the United States has great devotion.
When the security services left, Mrs Obama and her daughter Sasha made their way on foot to the Church of Santa Maria la Mayor, and later visited the Palace of the Arabian King and the Mine. In the afternoon, after a break for lunch, the first lady of the United States also saw the monumental Plaza de Toros, the city bullring.
As on her arrival, the first lady smiled and waved as she took her leave of the citizens and tourists in Ronda, and went back to the summer residence of Beahavís. From there she set off on Sunday 8 August to meet the Spanish Royal Family in Mallorca.
Published 13/8/2010 .
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Activists Assess Progress Toward Millennium Development Goals
Poverty
Activists Assess Progress Toward Millennium Development Goals
From CNS, staff and other sources
A mid horn-blowing gridlock around the United Nations on Sept. 20, world leaders gathered to discuss progress or the lack thereof in achieving the Millennium Development Goals for cutting global poverty and combating hunger and disease by 2015. With five years to go, even keen supporters of the various M.D.G. initiatives acknowledged that the overall effort is behind schedule. Few donor nations have honored commitments to direct 0.7 percent of their gross national product toward the alleviation of global poverty.
A far smaller group assembled across the street at the U.N. Church Center to consider some of the same issues. Their opinions ranged from hopeful to bleak.
David Beckmann, a Lutheran minister and economist who is president of Bread for the World, was among the hopeful. He used the image of the exodus of the Israelites from their captivity in Egypt to describe a growing liberation from hunger throughout the world, of “God moving in our history.” He said reduction of hunger in nations as far flung as Bangladesh, Ethiopia, Brazil and Ghana make “what happened at the Red Sea look like small potatoes.” Nevertheless, goals remain unachieved, and therefore Americans, he said, need to push their congressional representatives to fund U.S. antihunger initiatives and to make its foreign aid program more effective.
Katherine Marshall of World Faiths Development Dialogues, called reduced poverty “a reachable dream.” But, she said, gender inequality still hinders efforts to mitigate global poverty.
War likewise can be a major factor in locking people into poverty. But Arthur Keys, chief executive officer of International Relief and Development, said that successful development work could continue even in conflict zones. His own organization has assisted farmers in Afghanistan, improving both the viability of their agricultural economy and their communal resistance to the Taliban.
Thomas Pogee, director of the Global Justice Program at Yale University, complained that the donor response to world poverty has been “ridiculous,” given the magnitude of the problem. One in three people dies of poverty-related causes, he said, citing corruption in developing countries as one of many barriers to reducing poverty. Rich countries also do harm by protecting their own products through restrictions on imports from poor nations. And making matters worse, the poor are often not at the table when decisions that affect them are made.
Melinda St. Louis, director of Jubilee USA, offered some evidence that stubborn unwillingness to accept defeat can transform antipoverty efforts. She spoke of the way faith-based groups came together in the mid-1990s to press for debt forgiveness as a tool for reducing poverty. Because of this initiative, over a million children in Tanzania were able to attend school, and hundreds of new classrooms were built in Ghana. She and her co-workers had been told when they began their efforts that debt relief was impossible.
In the end, though, the advocates for debt forgiveness convinced world leaders to move ahead on debt justice, which, despite successes, remains an unfinished project. Twenty very poor countries were “left out of debt relief deals, and inappropriate lending and borrowing has continued,” she said. But if there is still unfinished business, and, as Professor Pogee says, “large forces are at work against the poor,” so, too, there are good forces working for them.
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Source: http://www.americamagazine.org/content/signs.cfm?signID=532
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1Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven.
2Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward.
3But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth:
4That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly.
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Tuesday, October 05, 2010
A Look Back at The Goodtimes
Frances Agosto carries U.S. Flags through Statuary Hall on her way to setup up a press conference site for Speaker Nancy Pelosi after the house votes on health care reform in the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Sunday, March 21, 2010.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California holding the gavel used to pass Medicare Reform, in the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Sunday, March 21, 2010.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California holding the gavel used to pass Medicare Reform, in the U.S. Capitol in Washington, Sunday, March 21, 2010..
Muslim Cleric: "The Flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House"
FreedomsLighthouse | October 03, 2010
The New Age Agenda (Pt.1)
TheForerunner777 June 07, 2010
A presentation on "The New Age Agenda" @ Oakwood University. Raw footage (filmed by a student in the audience).
As it Was in the Days of Lot…
October 2010
Dear Friends, Welcome to Keep The Faith Ministry. Thank you for listening to this message. We are living in the most awesome time in earth’s history. Your preparation for the second coming of Jesus is the most important thing in your life right now. You need Jesus more than ever....
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What is Dominionism? Palin, the Christian Right, & Theocracy
by cberlet
Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 06:13:19 AM PDT
Sarah Palin is a "Dominionist" with an apocalytic End Times theological viewpoint that sees the war in Iraq as part of God's plan. More on the End Times in the next post. Let's talk about Christian Right Dominionism and tendencies toward authoritarian theocratic governance.
With a number of bloggers calling Sarah Palin a "Dominionist," it is a good idea to clear up some obvious errors in the use of terminology.
Neither Sarah Palin nor her Protestant church affiliated with the Assemblies of God should be described as practicing a form of "Dominion Theology" or "Christian Reconstructionism." That is just plain wrong.
It is fair to suggest that Palin displays the tendency called "Dominionism" in some of her public statements.
As one of the authors who popularized the term "Dominionism" (along with Sara Diamond, and Fred Clarkson), I feel some obligation to clear up this confusion, which stems from some very sloppy research posted on a number of websites where the terms "Dominionism," "Dominion Theology," and "Christian Reconstructionism" are used improperly and interchangeably.
"Christian Reconstructionism" is a form of "Dominion Theology" that influenced a tendency toward "Dominionism" in the Christian Right and certain evangelical churches such as The Assemblies of God. But, lumping of these theologies together is neither accurate, nor fair.
How did this confusion get started?
In a September 1994 plenary speech to the Christian Coalition national convention, Rev. D. James Kennedy said that "true Christian citizenship" involves an active engagement in society to "take dominion over all things as vice-regents of God." Kennedy's remarks were reported in February 1995 by sociologist and journalist Sara Diamond, who wrote that Kennedy had "echoed the Reconstructionist line."
More than anyone else, it was Sara Diamond who popularized the term "dominionism," using it to describe a growing political tendency in the Christian Right. It is a useful term that has, unfortunately, been used in a variety of ways that are neither accurate nor useful. Diamond was careful to discuss how the small Christian Reconstructionist theological movement had helped introduce "dominionism" as a concept into the larger and more diverse social/political movements called the Christian Right.
Dominionism is therefore a tendency among Protestant Christian evangelicals and fundamentalists that encourages them to not only be active political participants in civic society, but also seek to dominate the political process as part of a mandate from God.
This highly politicized concept of dominionism is based on the Bible's text in Genesis 1:26:
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (King James Version).
"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" (New International Version).
The vast majority of Christians read this text and conclude that God has appointed them stewards and caretakers of Earth. As Sara Diamond explains, however, some Christian read the text and believe, "that Christians alone are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns." That, in a nutshell, is the idea of "dominionism."
Just because some critics of the Christian Right have stretched the term dominionism past its breaking point does not mean we should abandon the term. And while it is true that few participants in the Christian Right Culture War want a theocracy as proposed by the Christian Reconstructionists, many of their battlefield Earth commanders are leading them in that direction. A number of these leaders have been influenced by Christian Reconstructionism, which is a variant of theocracy called "theonomy."
William Martin is the author of the 1996 tome With God on Our Side, a companion volume to the PBS series. Martin is a sociologist and professor of religion at Rice University, and he has been critical of the way some critics of the Christian Right have tossed around the terms "dominionism" and "theocracy." Martin has offered some careful writing on the subject. According to Martin:
"It is difficult to assess the influence of Reconstructionist thought with any accuracy. Because it is so genuinely radical, most leaders of the Religious Right are careful to distance themselves from it. At the same time, it clearly holds some appeal for many of them. One undoubtedly spoke for others when he confessed, 'Though we hide their books under the bed, we read them just the same.' "
According to Martin, "several key leaders have acknowledged an intellectual debt to the theonomists. Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy have endorsed Reconstructionist books."
Before he died in 2001, the founder of Christian Reconstuctionism, R. J. Rushdoony, appeared several times on Christian Right televangelist programs such as Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the program hosted by D. James Kennedy, writes Martin.
"Pat Robertson makes frequent use of 'dominion' language" says Martin, "his book, The Secret Kingdom, has often been cited for its theonomy elements; and pluralists were made uncomfortable when, during his presidential campaign, he said he 'would only bring Christians and Jews into the government,' as well as when he later wrote, 'There will never be world peace until God's house and God's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world.' "
Martin also points out that "Jay Grimstead, who leads the Coalition on Revival, which brings Reconstructionists together with more mainstream evangelicals, has said, 'I don't call myself [a Reconstructionist],' but 'A lot of us are coming to realize that the Bible is God's standard of morality . . . in all points of history . . . and for all societies, Christian and non-Christian alike. . . . It so happens that Rushdoony, Bahnsen, and North understood that sooner.' He added, 'There are a lot of us floating around in Christian leadership James Kennedy is one of them-who don't go all the way with the theonomy thing, but who want to rebuild America based on the Bible.'"
So let's choose our language carefully, but let's recognize that terms such as "dominionism" and "theocracy," when used cautiously and carefully, are appropriate when describing anti-democratic tendencies in the Christian Right.
"Dominionism" as a Term or Description
The term "dominionism" is used different ways by different people. When new terms are developed, that is to be expected. If we are to use words and phrases to discuss ideas, however, it pays to be on the same page concerning how we define those terms. This is especially true in public debates.
In her 1989 book Spiritual Warfare, sociologist Sara Diamond discussed how dominionism as an ideological tendency in the Christian Right had been significantly influenced by Christian Reconstructionism. Over the past 20 years the leading proponents of Christian Reconstructionism and dominion theology have included Rousas John (R.J.) Rushdoony, Gary North, Greg Bahnsen, David Chilton, Gary DeMar, and Andrew Sandlin.
Diamond explained that "the primary importance of the [Christian Reconstructionist] ideology is its role as a catalyst for what is loosely called 'dominion theology.'" According to Diamond, "Largely through the impact of Rushdoony's and North's writings, the concept that Christians are Biblically mandated to 'occupy' all secular institutions has become the central unifying ideology for the Christian Right." (italics in the original).
In a series of articles and book chapters Diamond expanded on her thesis. She called Reconstructionism "the most intellectually grounded, though esoteric, brand of dominion theology," and observed that "promoters of Reconstructionism see their role as ideological entrepreneurs committed to a long-term struggle."
So Christian Reconstructionism was the most influential form of dominion theology, and it influenced both the theological concepts and political activism of white Protestant conservative evangelicals mobilized by the Christian Right.
But very few evangelicals have even heard of dominion theology, and fewer still embrace Christian Reconstructionism. How do we explain this, especially since our critics are quick to point it out?
The answer lies in teasing apart the terminology and how it is used.
Christian Reconstructionism is a form of theocratic dominion theology. Its leaders challenged evangelicals across a wide swath of theological beliefs to engage in a more muscular and activist form of political participation. The core theme of dominion theology is that the Bible mandates Christians to take over and "occupy" secular institutions.
A number of Christian Right leaders read what the Christian Reconstructionists were writing, and they adopted the idea of taking dominion over the secular institutions of the United States as the "central unifying ideology" of their social movement. They decided to gain political power through the Republican Party.
This does not mean most Christian Right leaders became Christian Reconstructionists. It does mean they were influenced by dominion theology. But they were influenced in a number of different ways, and some promote the theocratic aspects more militantly than others.
It helps to see the terms dominionism, dominion theology, and Christian Reconstructionism as distinct and not interchangeable. While all Christian Reconstructionists are dominionists, not all dominionists are Christian Reconstructionists.
A nested subset chart looks like this:
---Triumphalism
---------Dominionism
---------------------Dominion Theology or Theocracy
----------------------------------Theonomy
----------------------------------------------Christian Reconstructionism
The specific meanings are different in important ways, although the terms have been used in a variety of conflicting ways in popular articles, especially on the Internet.
In its generic sense, dominionism is a very broad political tendency within the Christian Right. It ranges from soft to hard versions in terms of its theocratic impulse.
Soft Dominionists are Christian nationalists. They believe that Biblically-defined immorality and sin breed chaos and anarchy. They fear that America's greatness as God's chosen land has been undermined by liberal secular humanists, feminists, and homosexuals. Purists want litmus tests for issues of abortion, tolerance of gays and lesbians, and prayer in schools. Their vision has elements of theocracy, but they stop short of calling for supplanting the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Hard Dominionists believe all of this, but they want the United States to be a Christian theocracy. For them the Constitution and Bill of Rights are merely addendums to Old Testament Biblical law. They claim that Christian men with specific theological beliefs are ordained by God to run society. Christians and others who do not accept their theological beliefs would be second-class citizens. This sector includes Christian Reconstructionists, but it has a growing number of adherents in the leadership of the Christian Right.
It makes more sense to reserve the term "dominion theology" to describe specific theological currents, while using the term "dominionism" in a generic sense to discuss a tendency toward aggressive political activism by Christians who claim they are mandated by God to take over society. Even then, we need to locate the subject of our criticisms on a scale that ranges from soft to hard versions of dominionism.
Chip Berlet, Senior Analyst, Political Research Associates
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Theocracy is derived from the two Greek words Qeo/j(Theos) meaning "God" and kra/tein (cratein) meaning "to rule." The Reverend Rod Parsley, a champion of theocracy, or what he calls a "christocracy," told his congregation at the World Harvest Church, located just outside Columbus, Ohio, "Theocracy means God is in control, and you are not." more
The theocratic right seeks to establish dominion, or control over society in the name of God. The late D. James Kennedy, former pastor of Coral Ridge Ministries, called on his followers to exercise "godly dominion ... over every aspect ... of human society." At a "Reclaiming America for Christ" conference in February, 2005, Kennedy said:
"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost. As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."
Twenty-five years ago, dominionists targeted the Republican Party as the vehicle through which they could advance their agenda. At the same time, a small group of Republican strategists targeted fundamentalist, Pentecostal and charismatic churches to expand the base of the Republican Party. This web site is not about traditional Republicans or conservative Christians. It is about the manipulation of people of a certain faith for political power. It is about the rise of dominionists in the U.S. federal government.
Today's hard right seeks total dominion. It's packing the courts and rigging the rules. The target is not the Democrats but democracy itself. more
According to acclaimed journalist and television host Bill Moyers,
"True, people of faith have always tried to bring their interpretation of the Bible to bear on American laws and morals ... it's the American way, encouraged and protected by the First Amendment. But what is unique today is that the radical religious right has succeeded in taking over one of America's great political parties. The country is not yet a theocracy but the Republican Party is, and they are driving American politics, using God as a a battering ram on almost every issue: crime and punishment, foreign policy, health care, taxation, energy, regulation, social services and so on." more
(To read the rest of the Home Page that was on this site before the 2006 midterm elections, click here.)
Fri Sep 05, 2008 at 06:13:19 AM PDT
Sarah Palin is a "Dominionist" with an apocalytic End Times theological viewpoint that sees the war in Iraq as part of God's plan. More on the End Times in the next post. Let's talk about Christian Right Dominionism and tendencies toward authoritarian theocratic governance.
With a number of bloggers calling Sarah Palin a "Dominionist," it is a good idea to clear up some obvious errors in the use of terminology.
Neither Sarah Palin nor her Protestant church affiliated with the Assemblies of God should be described as practicing a form of "Dominion Theology" or "Christian Reconstructionism." That is just plain wrong.
It is fair to suggest that Palin displays the tendency called "Dominionism" in some of her public statements.
As one of the authors who popularized the term "Dominionism" (along with Sara Diamond, and Fred Clarkson), I feel some obligation to clear up this confusion, which stems from some very sloppy research posted on a number of websites where the terms "Dominionism," "Dominion Theology," and "Christian Reconstructionism" are used improperly and interchangeably.
"Christian Reconstructionism" is a form of "Dominion Theology" that influenced a tendency toward "Dominionism" in the Christian Right and certain evangelical churches such as The Assemblies of God. But, lumping of these theologies together is neither accurate, nor fair.
How did this confusion get started?
In a September 1994 plenary speech to the Christian Coalition national convention, Rev. D. James Kennedy said that "true Christian citizenship" involves an active engagement in society to "take dominion over all things as vice-regents of God." Kennedy's remarks were reported in February 1995 by sociologist and journalist Sara Diamond, who wrote that Kennedy had "echoed the Reconstructionist line."
More than anyone else, it was Sara Diamond who popularized the term "dominionism," using it to describe a growing political tendency in the Christian Right. It is a useful term that has, unfortunately, been used in a variety of ways that are neither accurate nor useful. Diamond was careful to discuss how the small Christian Reconstructionist theological movement had helped introduce "dominionism" as a concept into the larger and more diverse social/political movements called the Christian Right.
Dominionism is therefore a tendency among Protestant Christian evangelicals and fundamentalists that encourages them to not only be active political participants in civic society, but also seek to dominate the political process as part of a mandate from God.
This highly politicized concept of dominionism is based on the Bible's text in Genesis 1:26:
"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth." (King James Version).
"Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image, in our likeness and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth and over all the creatures that move along the ground.'" (New International Version).
The vast majority of Christians read this text and conclude that God has appointed them stewards and caretakers of Earth. As Sara Diamond explains, however, some Christian read the text and believe, "that Christians alone are Biblically mandated to occupy all secular institutions until Christ returns." That, in a nutshell, is the idea of "dominionism."
Just because some critics of the Christian Right have stretched the term dominionism past its breaking point does not mean we should abandon the term. And while it is true that few participants in the Christian Right Culture War want a theocracy as proposed by the Christian Reconstructionists, many of their battlefield Earth commanders are leading them in that direction. A number of these leaders have been influenced by Christian Reconstructionism, which is a variant of theocracy called "theonomy."
William Martin is the author of the 1996 tome With God on Our Side, a companion volume to the PBS series. Martin is a sociologist and professor of religion at Rice University, and he has been critical of the way some critics of the Christian Right have tossed around the terms "dominionism" and "theocracy." Martin has offered some careful writing on the subject. According to Martin:
"It is difficult to assess the influence of Reconstructionist thought with any accuracy. Because it is so genuinely radical, most leaders of the Religious Right are careful to distance themselves from it. At the same time, it clearly holds some appeal for many of them. One undoubtedly spoke for others when he confessed, 'Though we hide their books under the bed, we read them just the same.' "
According to Martin, "several key leaders have acknowledged an intellectual debt to the theonomists. Jerry Falwell and D. James Kennedy have endorsed Reconstructionist books."
Before he died in 2001, the founder of Christian Reconstuctionism, R. J. Rushdoony, appeared several times on Christian Right televangelist programs such as Pat Robertson's 700 Club and the program hosted by D. James Kennedy, writes Martin.
"Pat Robertson makes frequent use of 'dominion' language" says Martin, "his book, The Secret Kingdom, has often been cited for its theonomy elements; and pluralists were made uncomfortable when, during his presidential campaign, he said he 'would only bring Christians and Jews into the government,' as well as when he later wrote, 'There will never be world peace until God's house and God's people are given their rightful place of leadership at the top of the world.' "
Martin also points out that "Jay Grimstead, who leads the Coalition on Revival, which brings Reconstructionists together with more mainstream evangelicals, has said, 'I don't call myself [a Reconstructionist],' but 'A lot of us are coming to realize that the Bible is God's standard of morality . . . in all points of history . . . and for all societies, Christian and non-Christian alike. . . . It so happens that Rushdoony, Bahnsen, and North understood that sooner.' He added, 'There are a lot of us floating around in Christian leadership James Kennedy is one of them-who don't go all the way with the theonomy thing, but who want to rebuild America based on the Bible.'"
So let's choose our language carefully, but let's recognize that terms such as "dominionism" and "theocracy," when used cautiously and carefully, are appropriate when describing anti-democratic tendencies in the Christian Right.
"Dominionism" as a Term or Description
The term "dominionism" is used different ways by different people. When new terms are developed, that is to be expected. If we are to use words and phrases to discuss ideas, however, it pays to be on the same page concerning how we define those terms. This is especially true in public debates.
In her 1989 book Spiritual Warfare, sociologist Sara Diamond discussed how dominionism as an ideological tendency in the Christian Right had been significantly influenced by Christian Reconstructionism. Over the past 20 years the leading proponents of Christian Reconstructionism and dominion theology have included Rousas John (R.J.) Rushdoony, Gary North, Greg Bahnsen, David Chilton, Gary DeMar, and Andrew Sandlin.
Diamond explained that "the primary importance of the [Christian Reconstructionist] ideology is its role as a catalyst for what is loosely called 'dominion theology.'" According to Diamond, "Largely through the impact of Rushdoony's and North's writings, the concept that Christians are Biblically mandated to 'occupy' all secular institutions has become the central unifying ideology for the Christian Right." (italics in the original).
In a series of articles and book chapters Diamond expanded on her thesis. She called Reconstructionism "the most intellectually grounded, though esoteric, brand of dominion theology," and observed that "promoters of Reconstructionism see their role as ideological entrepreneurs committed to a long-term struggle."
So Christian Reconstructionism was the most influential form of dominion theology, and it influenced both the theological concepts and political activism of white Protestant conservative evangelicals mobilized by the Christian Right.
But very few evangelicals have even heard of dominion theology, and fewer still embrace Christian Reconstructionism. How do we explain this, especially since our critics are quick to point it out?
The answer lies in teasing apart the terminology and how it is used.
Christian Reconstructionism is a form of theocratic dominion theology. Its leaders challenged evangelicals across a wide swath of theological beliefs to engage in a more muscular and activist form of political participation. The core theme of dominion theology is that the Bible mandates Christians to take over and "occupy" secular institutions.
A number of Christian Right leaders read what the Christian Reconstructionists were writing, and they adopted the idea of taking dominion over the secular institutions of the United States as the "central unifying ideology" of their social movement. They decided to gain political power through the Republican Party.
This does not mean most Christian Right leaders became Christian Reconstructionists. It does mean they were influenced by dominion theology. But they were influenced in a number of different ways, and some promote the theocratic aspects more militantly than others.
It helps to see the terms dominionism, dominion theology, and Christian Reconstructionism as distinct and not interchangeable. While all Christian Reconstructionists are dominionists, not all dominionists are Christian Reconstructionists.
A nested subset chart looks like this:
---Triumphalism
---------Dominionism
---------------------Dominion Theology or Theocracy
----------------------------------Theonomy
----------------------------------------------Christian Reconstructionism
The specific meanings are different in important ways, although the terms have been used in a variety of conflicting ways in popular articles, especially on the Internet.
In its generic sense, dominionism is a very broad political tendency within the Christian Right. It ranges from soft to hard versions in terms of its theocratic impulse.
Soft Dominionists are Christian nationalists. They believe that Biblically-defined immorality and sin breed chaos and anarchy. They fear that America's greatness as God's chosen land has been undermined by liberal secular humanists, feminists, and homosexuals. Purists want litmus tests for issues of abortion, tolerance of gays and lesbians, and prayer in schools. Their vision has elements of theocracy, but they stop short of calling for supplanting the Constitution and Bill of Rights.
Hard Dominionists believe all of this, but they want the United States to be a Christian theocracy. For them the Constitution and Bill of Rights are merely addendums to Old Testament Biblical law. They claim that Christian men with specific theological beliefs are ordained by God to run society. Christians and others who do not accept their theological beliefs would be second-class citizens. This sector includes Christian Reconstructionists, but it has a growing number of adherents in the leadership of the Christian Right.
It makes more sense to reserve the term "dominion theology" to describe specific theological currents, while using the term "dominionism" in a generic sense to discuss a tendency toward aggressive political activism by Christians who claim they are mandated by God to take over society. Even then, we need to locate the subject of our criticisms on a scale that ranges from soft to hard versions of dominionism.
Chip Berlet, Senior Analyst, Political Research Associates
_________________________________________________________
Theocracy is derived from the two Greek words Qeo/j(Theos) meaning "God" and kra/tein (cratein) meaning "to rule." The Reverend Rod Parsley, a champion of theocracy, or what he calls a "christocracy," told his congregation at the World Harvest Church, located just outside Columbus, Ohio, "Theocracy means God is in control, and you are not." more
The theocratic right seeks to establish dominion, or control over society in the name of God. The late D. James Kennedy, former pastor of Coral Ridge Ministries, called on his followers to exercise "godly dominion ... over every aspect ... of human society." At a "Reclaiming America for Christ" conference in February, 2005, Kennedy said:
"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost. As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society."
Twenty-five years ago, dominionists targeted the Republican Party as the vehicle through which they could advance their agenda. At the same time, a small group of Republican strategists targeted fundamentalist, Pentecostal and charismatic churches to expand the base of the Republican Party. This web site is not about traditional Republicans or conservative Christians. It is about the manipulation of people of a certain faith for political power. It is about the rise of dominionists in the U.S. federal government.
Today's hard right seeks total dominion. It's packing the courts and rigging the rules. The target is not the Democrats but democracy itself. more
According to acclaimed journalist and television host Bill Moyers,
"True, people of faith have always tried to bring their interpretation of the Bible to bear on American laws and morals ... it's the American way, encouraged and protected by the First Amendment. But what is unique today is that the radical religious right has succeeded in taking over one of America's great political parties. The country is not yet a theocracy but the Republican Party is, and they are driving American politics, using God as a a battering ram on almost every issue: crime and punishment, foreign policy, health care, taxation, energy, regulation, social services and so on." more
(To read the rest of the Home Page that was on this site before the 2006 midterm elections, click here.)
Back from the Brink
Before the midterm elections of 2006, dominionists controlled both houses of the U.S. Congress, the White House and four out of nine seats on the U.S. Supreme Court. They were one seat away from holding a solid majority on the Supreme Court. As of January 1, 2007, dominionists will not control the leadership of either house of Congress, and the President will no longer be able to so easily appoint dominionists to the federal courts.
Five of the Republican Senators who were unseated on November 7 received whopping scores of 100% from the Family Research Council and Focus on the Family Voter Scorecards. Those Senators are: Conrad Burns (R-MT), George Allen (R-VA), Rick Santorum (R-PA), James Talent (R-MO), and Mike DeWine (R-OH). Rick Santorum was the number three ranking Republican in the party. Santorum and Allen both had Presidential ambitions. (FRC and FOF are the most politically influential of dominionist organizations.) For more discussion of the elections go to Talk To Action.
Where do we go from here?
Dominionists were very close to controlling all three branches of the federal government from which they could impose their narrow interpretation of scripture on the rest of society. People so close to full political power are not going to go away. The American people need to maintain vigilance and understand the history of how dominionists came to political power. And we need to embrace democracy with a passion -- for it was voter apathy that allowed leaders like Pat Robertson to get so many dominionists elected to Congress in the first place.
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Monday, October 04, 2010
Australia's Gillard, EU's Barroso support closer relationship
EUXTV October 04, 2010
Ahead of the ASEM Summit, Julia Gillard, Prime Minister of Australia and José Manuel Barroso, EC President stated they want to develop further the EU-Australia relationship.
Prime Minister Gillard proposed to create a treaty aiming at strengthening the cooperation between EU-Australia in research, development and innovation .
The EC President said he will examine those proposals in detail and consult Member States. 'We very much support the idea of giving more important expression to the relationship between Australia and the European Union', added José Manuel Barroso.
They also discussed topics for the preparation of the G20 in Seoul, South Korea. Issues such as the restructuring of IMF, financial reforms and economic governance were raised.
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The First Monday in October: No Protestants day
Today marks the beginning of a prophetic new trend; the commencement of the Protestant-less U.S. Supreme Court.
6 Roman Catholics: Roberts, Scalia, Thomas, Kennedy, Alito, and Sotomayor.
3 Jews: Ginsburg, Breyer, and starting today Kagan.
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I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth
Psalm 46
1God is our refuge and strength, a very present help in trouble.
2Therefore will not we fear, though the earth be removed, and though the mountains be carried into the midst of the sea;
3Though the waters thereof roar and be troubled, though the mountains shake with the swelling thereof. Selah.
4There is a river, the streams whereof shall make glad the city of God, the holy place of the tabernacles of the most High.
5God is in the midst of her; she shall not be moved: God shall help her, and that right early.
6The heathen raged, the kingdoms were moved: he uttered his voice, the earth melted.
7The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
8Come, behold the works of the LORD, what desolations he hath made in the earth.
9He maketh wars to cease unto the end of the earth; he breaketh the bow, and cutteth the spear in sunder; he burneth the chariot in the fire.
10Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
11The LORD of hosts is with us; the God of Jacob is our refuge. Selah.
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Sunday, October 03, 2010
Let’s Compare Aerial Pictures of the 10/2 & 8/28 Rallies
Posted on October 3, 2010 at 2:21am by Scott Baker
Within hours of the 8/28 rally CBS News had posted expert analysis of the rally attendance and concluded that 87,000 people had attended.
It is not clear exactly when that photo was taken on 10/2 — but it is the only aerial shot featured in the HuffPo playlist.
Here now is a similar vantage shot from the 8/28 rally:
So if CBS News believes that 8/28 drew only 87,000 people — then I’m sure they will soon be posting expert analysis that the “One Nation” rally drew 25,000. Right?
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Within hours of the 8/28 rally CBS News had posted expert analysis of the rally attendance and concluded that 87,000 people had attended.
It is not clear exactly when that photo was taken on 10/2 — but it is the only aerial shot featured in the HuffPo playlist.
Here now is a similar vantage shot from the 8/28 rally:
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